Truth About Marijuana and Driving
Posted by suckmebush in Marijuana News
After listening to I don’t know how many times the probation/parole officer tell me about how marijuana is addicting and kills people who drive under its influence I just want to puke from the overload of lying bullshit.
What Bush? Is it possible that pot does Not destroy the ability to drive? Right.
Try this:
Marijuana and Driving: A Review of the Scientific Evidence
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It is well established that alcohol increases accident risk. Evidence of marijuana’s culpability in on-road driving accidents is much less convincing.
Although cannabis intoxication has been shown to mildly impair psychomotor skills, this impairment does not appear to be severe or long lasting. In driving simulator tests, this impairment is typically manifested by subjects decreasing their driving speed and requiring greater time to respond to emergency situations.
Nevertheless, this impairment does not appear to play a significant role in on-road traffic accidents. A 2002 review of seven separate studies involving 7,934 drivers reported, “Crash culpability studies have failed to demonstrate that drivers with cannabinoids in the blood are significantly more likely than drug-free drivers to be culpable in road crashes.” This result is likely because subject under the influence of marijuana are aware of their impairment and compensate for it accordingly, such as by slowing down and by focusing their attention when they know a response will be required. This reaction is just the opposite of that exhibited by drivers under the influence of alcohol, who tend to drive in a more risky manner proportional to their intoxication.
Today, a large body of research exists exploring the impact of marijuana on psychomotor skills and actual driving performance. This research consists of driving simulator studies, on-road performance studies, crash culpability studies, and summary reviews of the existing evidence. To date, the result of this research is fairly consistent: Marijuana has a measurable yet relatively mild effect on psychomotor skills, yet it does not appear to play a significant role in vehicle crashes, particularly when compared to alcohol. Below is a summary of some of the existing data.
(For more information on NORML’s position regarding marijuana, driving and the law, please click here or visit NORML’s Principles of Responsible Cannabis Use.)
Summaries
Crash culpability studies
On-Road Performance Studies
Driving simulator studies
I can put up more. It is the sort of thing I read, but will probably put off the average reader so I leave it off for your sake.
Read this site: http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=5450
So, we have put up doctors of nursing science who tell us pot doesn’t hurt pregnant mommies, and now we have serious proof pot doesn’t hurt driving skills.
I can tell you this for sure, a cell phone does a whole lot more than mildly impair driving skills from the way I have seen peeps blabbering on them pull out in front of a bus I was in several years ago.
God Bless Your Gardens
read comments (1)Some Truth About Cannabis and Kids
Posted by suckmebush in Marijuana News
It is coming out and can not be silenced. We Need legalized cannabis for our personal, family needs. I, personally, am repulsed by the idea I need or require some medical “expert” to tell me how to, or anything, treat my kids with cannabis. I do not regard cannabis as a difficult issue. I regard intrusive, control freaks as very difficult issues and wish them on their way, far away. It is perfectly fine if you ask for it, but we need the control freaks to get off our backs and away from our freedoms.
a bit of humor? glad you asked:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6015000186042700962&hl=en
Brain deterioration from pot? here is a medical table of specific types of cancer THC stops or slows:
Table 2 | Tumours that are sensitive to cannabinoid-induced growth inhibition
Tumour type Experimental system Effect Receptor References
Lung carcinoma In vivo (mouse); Decreased tumour size; N.D. 29
in vitro cell-growth inhibition
Glioma In vivo (mouse, rat); Decreased tumour size; CB1, CB2 50,51,53,85
in vitro apoptosis
Thyroid epithelioma In vivo (mouse); Decreased tumour size; CB1 60
in vitro cell-cycle arrest
Lymphoma/leukaemia In vivo (mouse); Decreased tumour size; CB2 96
in vitro apoptosis
Skin carcinoma In vivo (mouse); Decreased tumour size; CB1, CB2 61
in vitro apoptosis
Uterus carcinoma In vitro Cell-growth inhibition N.D. 97,98Breast carcinoma
In vitro Cell-cycle arrest CB1 57–59
Prostate carcinoma In vitro Apoptosis CB1? 54,59,99Neuroblastoma In vitro Apoptosis VR1 51,73
Brain deterioration from pot? How about raging deviation from the medical facts as reported by the federal government and then covered up by the same nutty outfit?
That table was about how cannabis shrinks tumors in lung cancers, not causes lung cancer.
That table was about how cannabis helps women dying from metastatic breast cancer.
How, in the name of God, can our own government be against disseminating cannabis???
There will come a time when cannabis extracts are taken in the morning like we take vitamins now. And the cannabis will probably do more good than the vitamins will because you can eat your vitamins from regular food, but not the cannabis. It will be a new food group.
We need cannabis for our diet every day so we live longer, happier, more productive lives.
We need to stop giving speed to our kids in school and be using a far safer drug: cannabis. I am definetly not for causing intoxication disguised as medication, however. We already have that with the kids taking speed as it is. Clearly more research of a non bigoted nature must be performed and soon. We need cannabis and we need to know its scope of use and what it will not do, as well.
Posted by suckmebush in Marijuana News
sorry bout the duplications below, but my edit function is awful for me to use as yet. doc is trying to help and did clean it up some, then I see the duplications. he will get it… then peeps will wonder what I am talking about lol
Anyways! here is a reasonable rant for reefer ears, and freedom lovers everywhere:
Bruce Mirken at the Marijuana Policy Project Blog points to some revealing data from the National Research Council:
The issue most extensively studied has been the impact of decriminalization on the prevalence of marijuana use among youths and adults. Penalties for possession of small amounts of marijuana for personal use were significantly reduced in 11 states in the 1970s (Bonnie, 1981b). All of these laws preclude incarceration for consumption-related marijuana offenses, making the offense punishable only by a fine, and most also classify the offense in a category (typically a civil infraction) that does not carry the stigmatizing consequence of having been convicted of a crime— hence the term ‘decriminalization.’
Most cross-state comparisons in the United States (as well as in Australia; see McGeorge and Aitken, 1997) have found no significant differences in the prevalence of marijuana use in decriminalized and nondecriminalized states (e.g., Johnston et al., 1981; Single, 1989; DiNardo and Lemieux, 1992; Thies and Register, 1993). Even in the few studies that find an effect on prevalence, it is a weak one. …
In summary, existing research seems to indicate that there is little apparent relationship between severity of sanctions prescribed for drug use and prevalence or frequency of use, and that perceived legal risk explains very little in the variance of individual drug use. [NAP]
We’ve been placing marijuana users in handcuffs and taking them to jail. We’ve been stigmatizing them with criminal records and interfering with their job opportunities. We’ve been taking their children away. We’ve been revoking their financial aid for college. We’ve been taking away their hope for living a normal life and then claiming we’re trying to help them be normal.
Our marijuana laws are designed to hurt people. To inflict injury. And it’s all based on the idea that less people will use marijuana if we do these horrible things to them. But if that isn’t true, then we’re ruining lives for no reason. There remains no excuse for continuing this.
yep, to me, on probation for growing reefer, he is right on. hurting me by isolating me from my family and messing up my receiving social security is a psychotic behavior without redeeming effect. All they get out of me is to piss me off and hate the morons of the law who enjoy inflicting slavery onto people for growing a harmless plant. They are damned well nuts and will answer to God for being slave masters for it. Oh, and then I have to give them money because I “owe” it to justice?
I wonder how the same outfit that murdered my daughter could possibly have any realistic idea of what justice is!! That’s right. My home state pled guilty to felony homicide of my eleven year old little girl when they forced her to take the same shit I was independently taking and it wiped us both out. I just don’t think the “leaders” have a clue as to how self destructive our criminal justice bullshit is.
Just one last thought on the way out the door: I read in the Bible where God gives authority for the state to use force, but I just can not find a spot no matter how hard I look where God gives the state wisdom.
Some Information on Law and Pain here in USA
Posted by dr greenthumb in Marijuana News
Here is the reason our American economy is in so much trouble as presented by the only politician running for president who is worth a shit. The two “standard bearers” are morons without so much as a clue and our coming depression will stand as my sad vindication of personal accuracy.
I can only hope that the violent economic explosion holds off long enough for my torts from the tobacco addicted drug addict who rear ended me can settle and I can buy some Tata Group stocks in India to protect my settlement. Why send the money out of the “safest county in the world”? Because we are about to lose our ass that’s why.
Democrats… bah, humbug!
Republicans… fuck you for causing this evil to our home
Asleep Americans… you have this coming up your asses for being so very easy to decieve
I predict you all legalize pot so you can forget some of your very real pain in the not so distant future, Republican morons.
It all hooks together with a single word: conceit.
response from dr ron paul………..
One Response to “Some Information on Law and Pain here in USA”
suckmebush Says:
September 27th, 2008 at 11:14 amDear Friends:
The financial meltdown the economists of the Austrian School predicted has arrived.
We are in this crisis because of an excess of artificially created credit at the hands of the Federal Reserve System. The solution being proposed? More artificial credit by the Federal Reserve. No liquidation of bad debt and malinvestment is to be allowed. By doing more of the same, we will only continue and intensify the distortions in our economy - all the capital misallocation, all the malinvestment - and prevent the market’s attempt to re-establish rational pricing of houses and other assets.
Last night the president addressed the nation about the financial crisis. There is no point in going through his remarks line by line, since I’d only be repeating what I’ve been saying over and over - not just for the past several days, but for years and even decades.
Still, at least a few observations are necessary.
The president assures us that his administration “is working with Congress to address the root cause behind much of the instability in our markets.” Care to take a guess at whether the Federal Reserve and its money creation spree were even mentioned?
We are told that “low interest rates” led to excessive borrowing, but we are not told how these low interest rates came about. They were a deliberate policy of the Federal Reserve. As always, artificially low interest rates distort the market. Entrepreneurs engage in malinvestments - investments that do not make sense in light of current resource availability, that occur in more temporally remote stages of the capital structure than the pattern of consumer demand can support, and that would not have been made at all if the interest rate had been permitted to tell the truth instead of being toyed with by the Fed.
Not a word about any of that, of course, because Americans might then discover how the great wise men in Washington caused this great debacle. Better to keep scapegoating the mortgage industry or “wildcat capitalism” (as if we actually have a pure free market!).
Speaking about Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the president said: “Because these companies were chartered by Congress, many believed they were guaranteed by the federal government. This allowed them to borrow enormous sums of money, fuel the market for questionable investments, and put our financial system at risk.”
Doesn’t that prove the foolishness of chartering Fannie and Freddie in the first place? Doesn’t that suggest that maybe, just maybe, government may have contributed to this mess? And of course, by bailing out Fannie and Freddie, hasn’t the federal government shown that the “many” who “believed they were guaranteed by the federal government” were in fact correct?
Then come the scare tactics. If we don’t give dictatorial powers to the Treasury Secretary “the stock market would drop even more, which would reduce the value of your retirement account. The value of your home could plummet.” Left unsaid, naturally, is that with the bailout and all the money and credit that must be produced out of thin air to fund it, the value of your retirement account will drop anyway, because the value of the dollar will suffer a precipitous decline. As for home prices, they are obviously much too high, and supply and demand cannot equilibrate if government insists on propping them up.
It’s the same destructive strategy that government tried during the Great Depression: prop up prices at all costs. The Depression went on for over a decade. On the other hand, when liquidation was allowed to occur in the equally devastating downturn of 1921, the economy recovered within less than a year.
The president also tells us that Senators McCain and Obama will join him at the White House today in order to figure out how to get the bipartisan bailout passed. The two senators would do their country much more good if they stayed on the campaign trail debating who the bigger celebrity is, or whatever it is that occupies their attention these days.
F.A. Hayek won the Nobel Prize for showing how central banks’ manipulation of interest rates creates the boom-bust cycle with which we are sadly familiar. In 1932, in the depths of the Great Depression, he described the foolish policies being pursued in his day - and which are being proposed, just as destructively, in our own:
Instead of furthering the inevitable liquidation of the maladjustments brought about by the boom during the last three years, all conceivable means have been used to prevent that readjustment from taking place; and one of these means, which has been repeatedly tried though without success, from the earliest to the most recent stages of depression, has been this deliberate policy of credit expansion.
To combat the depression by a forced credit expansion is to attempt to cure the evil by the very means which brought it about; because we are suffering from a misdirection of production, we want to create further misdirection - a procedure that can only lead to a much more severe crisis as soon as the credit expansion comes to an end… It is probably to this experiment, together with the attempts to prevent liquidation once the crisis had come, that we owe the exceptional severity and duration of the depression.
The only thing we learn from history, I am afraid, is that we do not learn from history.
The very people who have spent the past several years assuring us that the economy is fundamentally sound, and who themselves foolishly cheered the extension of all these novel kinds of mortgages, are the ones who now claim to be the experts who will restore prosperity! Just how spectacularly wrong, how utterly without a clue, does someone have to be before his expert status is called into question?
Oh, and did you notice that the bailout is now being called a “rescue plan”? I guess “bailout” wasn’t sitting too well with the American people.
The very people who with somber faces tell us of their deep concern for the spread of democracy around the world are the ones most insistent on forcing a bill through Congress that the American people overwhelmingly oppose. The very fact that some of you seem to think you’re supposed to have a voice in all this actually seems to annoy them.
I continue to urge you to contact your representatives and give them a piece of your mind. I myself am doing everything I can to promote the correct point of view on the crisis. Be sure also to educate yourselves on these subjects - the Campaign for Liberty blog is an excellent place to start. Read the posts, ask questions in the comment section, and learn.
H.G. Wells once said that civilization was in a race between education and catastrophe. Let us learn the truth and spread it as far and wide as our circumstances allow. For the truth is the greatest weapon we have.
In liberty,
Ron Paul
Some Information on Law and Pain here in USA
Posted by dr greenthumb in Marijuana News
Here is the reason our American economy is in so much trouble as presented by the only politician running for president who is worth a shit. The two “standard bearers” are morons without so much as a clue and our coming depression will stand as my sad vindication of personal accuracy.
I can only hope that the violent economic explosion holds off long enough for my torts from the tobacco addicted drug addict who rear ended me can settle and I can buy some Tata Group stocks in India to protect my settlement. Why send the money out of the “safest county in the world”? Because we are about to lose our ass that’s why.
Democrats… bah, humbug!
Republicans… fuck you for causing this evil to our home
Asleep Americans… you have this coming up your asses for being so very easy to decieve
I predict you all legalize pot so you can forget some of your very real pain in the not so distant future, Republican morons.
It all hooks together with a single word: conceit.
the response from Dr Ron Paul………..
One Response to “Some Information on Law and Pain here in USA”
suckmebush Says:
September 27th, 2008 at 11:14 am
Dear Friends:
The financial meltdown the economists of the Austrian School predicted has arrived.
We are in this crisis because of an excess of artificially created credit at the hands of the Federal Reserve System. The solution being proposed? More artificial credit by the Federal Reserve. No liquidation of bad debt and malinvestment is to be allowed. By doing more of the same, we will only continue and intensify the distortions in our economy - all the capital misallocation, all the malinvestment - and prevent the market’s attempt to re-establish rational pricing of houses and other assets.
Last night the president addressed the nation about the financial crisis. There is no point in going through his remarks line by line, since I’d only be repeating what I’ve been saying over and over - not just for the past several days, but for years and even decades.
Still, at least a few observations are necessary.
The president assures us that his administration “is working with Congress to address the root cause behind much of the instability in our markets.” Care to take a guess at whether the Federal Reserve and its money creation spree were even mentioned?
We are told that “low interest rates” led to excessive borrowing, but we are not told how these low interest rates came about. They were a deliberate policy of the Federal Reserve. As always, artificially low interest rates distort the market. Entrepreneurs engage in malinvestments - investments that do not make sense in light of current resource availability, that occur in more temporally remote stages of the capital structure than the pattern of consumer demand can support, and that would not have been made at all if the interest rate had been permitted to tell the truth instead of being toyed with by the Fed.
Not a word about any of that, of course, because Americans might then discover how the great wise men in Washington caused this great debacle. Better to keep scapegoating the mortgage industry or “wildcat capitalism” (as if we actually have a pure free market!).
Speaking about Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the president said: “Because these companies were chartered by Congress, many believed they were guaranteed by the federal government. This allowed them to borrow enormous sums of money, fuel the market for questionable investments, and put our financial system at risk.”
Doesn’t that prove the foolishness of chartering Fannie and Freddie in the first place? Doesn’t that suggest that maybe, just maybe, government may have contributed to this mess? And of course, by bailing out Fannie and Freddie, hasn’t the federal government shown that the “many” who “believed they were guaranteed by the federal government” were in fact correct?
Then come the scare tactics. If we don’t give dictatorial powers to the Treasury Secretary “the stock market would drop even more, which would reduce the value of your retirement account. The value of your home could plummet.” Left unsaid, naturally, is that with the bailout and all the money and credit that must be produced out of thin air to fund it, the value of your retirement account will drop anyway, because the value of the dollar will suffer a precipitous decline. As for home prices, they are obviously much too high, and supply and demand cannot equilibrate if government insists on propping them up.
It’s the same destructive strategy that government tried during the Great Depression: prop up prices at all costs. The Depression went on for over a decade. On the other hand, when liquidation was allowed to occur in the equally devastating downturn of 1921, the economy recovered within less than a year.
The president also tells us that Senators McCain and Obama will join him at the White House today in order to figure out how to get the bipartisan bailout passed. The two senators would do their country much more good if they stayed on the campaign trail debating who the bigger celebrity is, or whatever it is that occupies their attention these days.
F.A. Hayek won the Nobel Prize for showing how central banks’ manipulation of interest rates creates the boom-bust cycle with which we are sadly familiar. In 1932, in the depths of the Great Depression, he described the foolish policies being pursued in his day - and which are being proposed, just as destructively, in our own:
Instead of furthering the inevitable liquidation of the maladjustments brought about by the boom during the last three years, all conceivable means have been used to prevent that readjustment from taking place; and one of these means, which has been repeatedly tried though without success, from the earliest to the most recent stages of depression, has been this deliberate policy of credit expansion.
To combat the depression by a forced credit expansion is to attempt to cure the evil by the very means which brought it about; because we are suffering from a misdirection of production, we want to create further misdirection - a procedure that can only lead to a much more severe crisis as soon as the credit expansion comes to an end… It is probably to this experiment, together with the attempts to prevent liquidation once the crisis had come, that we owe the exceptional severity and duration of the depression.
The only thing we learn from history, I am afraid, is that we do not learn from history.
The very people who have spent the past several years assuring us that the economy is fundamentally sound, and who themselves foolishly cheered the extension of all these novel kinds of mortgages, are the ones who now claim to be the experts who will restore prosperity! Just how spectacularly wrong, how utterly without a clue, does someone have to be before his expert status is called into question?
Oh, and did you notice that the bailout is now being called a “rescue plan”? I guess “bailout” wasn’t sitting too well with the American people.
The very people who with somber faces tell us of their deep concern for the spread of democracy around the world are the ones most insistent on forcing a bill through Congress that the American people overwhelmingly oppose. The very fact that some of you seem to think you’re supposed to have a voice in all this actually seems to annoy them.
I continue to urge you to contact your representatives and give them a piece of your mind. I myself am doing everything I can to promote the correct point of view on the crisis. Be sure also to educate yourselves on these subjects - the Campaign for Liberty blog is an excellent place to start. Read the posts, ask questions in the comment section, and learn.
H.G. Wells once said that civilization was in a race between education and catastrophe. Let us learn the truth and spread it as far and wide as our circumstances allow. For the truth is the greatest weapon we have.
In liberty,
Ron Paul
Some Information on Law and Pain here in USA
Posted by suckmebush in Marijuana News
Here is the reason our American economy is in so much trouble as presented by the only politician running for president who is worth a shit. The two “standard bearers” are morons without so much as a clue and our coming depression will stand as my sad vindication of personal accuracy.
I can only hope that the violent economic explosion holds off long enough for my torts from the tobacco addicted drug addict who rear ended me can settle and I can buy some Tata Group stocks in India to protect my settlement. Why send the money out of the “safest county in the world”? Because we are about to lose our ass that’s why.
Democrats… bah, humbug!
Republicans… fuck you for causing this evil to our home
Asleep Americans… you have this coming up your asses for being so very easy to decieve
I predict you all legalize pot so you can forget some of your very real pain in the not so distant future, Republican morons.
It all hooks together with a single word: conceit.
Posted by suckmebush in Marijuana News
High folks:
Anybody seen prezidenchal Bush on TV sweating the shitstorm his lackadasical policies have visited on the USA? And, guess what? the dumbasses pot laws are just as smart as his taking us to a war we didn’t need and never should have started, either.
I got us another great read from Carl Olsen who passed along the following:
Attorney General’s new pot rules not enough
Medical marijuana laws must be changed federally to have any impact
Benjamin Browning
Issue date: 9/23/08 Section: Opinion
California Attorney General Jerry Brown’s new attempt to settle the nerves of medical marijuana dispensers and patients is a weak attempt to make proposition 215 stronger.
Attorney General Brown has introduced an eleven-page directive aimed at clearing up some issues between state and federal governments. He believes his new guidelines will minimize legal worries and ease patient worries.
In 1996 when proposition 215 was passed by an overwhelming vote, medical marijuana dispensaries started popping up like Trader Joes all over the state. People started getting prescriptions for their “back pain” and everyone was happy.
At the same time, federally, this was all very illegal.
Twelve years has gone by and dozens of dispensaries have been opened, been raided, and been reopened just to be raided again. Hundreds of millions of dollars have been made from the profits and millions have been spent on trying to fight the legislation.
Brown’s eleven-page directive now gives police the ability to distinguish between criminals and legitimate marijuana sellers. It also protects patients from getting arrested unlawfully. Brown’s plan also will change dispensaries into non-profit or cooperatives, to cut out big money operations that exploit the medical label and sell to just about anyone.
One other step Brown wants to take is to change the amount of pot on the market, making it so only a patient, caregiver or dispensary could grow the small amount of medical marijuana needed. Brown’s plan has just cleaned up the legislation at the state level. It will not stop the DEA from raiding dispensaries or harassing patients.
The police should already be able to distinguish criminals from legitimate marijuana sellers. Don’t the legitimate guys usually sell during the day at a place with a sign that says medical marijuana in neon green?
As for turning these dispensaries into non-profits, they probably only report a quarter of their earnings as it is so this will be no big hurdle for them to get around. I am sure there are millions of tax-free dollars going through legitimate dispensaries.
The amount of pot on the market will not change by only allowing patients or dispensaries to grow the plants. The law now says a patient is allowed to grow up to six plants and a dispensary is allowed to grow six plants per patient it serves. There is no way a dispensary knows how many patients it has from week to week or even day to day. If they have 65 regular patients they must 65 people that try and go to a different dispensary every week. Does that mean they have 130 patients and are allowed to grow 780 plants?
Making all these changes at the state level is continuing to get the medical marijuana laws nowhere. The changes need to be made federally and only then will the dispensers be able to run their business with out fear from the DEA.
See how our federal master blaster Carl Olsen is after the legalization issue from the federal level? He wins anything it mashes the dogshit out of police hatred everywhere in the whole USA. And, as I have been telling the brit buds, we force open the hateful hand of cannabis haters here and their toadies over there will loosen up, too.
Peace to you and your families
Posted by suckmebush in Marijuana News
Dear SMB:
Thank you for contacting me. I am always glad to hear from you.
I appreciate hearing your views concerning the medicinal use of
marijuana. As you may know, while marijuana remains an illegal drug at the
Federal level, nine states currently allow marijuana to be used by
patients suffering from certain medical conditions. The Bush
Administration, however, has made clear that it intends to continue to
enforce existing Federal criminal penalties attached to marijuana-related
activities, and that it will not recognize any medical-use exception, even
in states where such exceptions have been enacted.
I generally support the vigorous enforcement of Federal drug laws. But
it
is my understanding that there is evidence to suggest that marijuana may
be effective at delivering medicinal benefits in some circumstances -
benefits which may outweigh risks associated with prescribed use in such
cases. Certainly we should explore reasonable ways to relieve pain
suffered by people with chronic and terminal illnesses, and I support the
idea of conducting research into whether medicinal marijuana can serve
this or other medical purposes. The Food and Drug Administration has
already approved a drug called Marinol, a synthetic form of the active
ingredient in marijuana.
Again, thanks for sharing your views with me. Please don’t hesitate to
let me know how you feel on any issue that concerns you.
Sincerely,
Tom Harkin
United States Senator
Well, Senator, you Should be thanking me because I have to drag myself accross your ignorence and the bigoted, hatefull bullshit in your heart as reflected in your poorly composed letter so full of misrepresentation and falsehood. We Iowans pay this drug warrior more in a day than you probably make in a month, especially if we consider his kickbacks and so forth from his pharmaceutical buds we don’t hear about so much.
What nine states have approved medical marijuana, Senator? Would it help to make up your violent mind if I corrected your figures to current day values? We have twelve states here in America that have legalized medical marijuana in the face of that violent, lying son of a bitch Geo W Bush and all the rest of the war criminals just like him in order to have an effective United States. Just how old is the form letter you paraphrased this weak, ineffective letter to me???
We need to end the hate as soon as possible, Senator. It was never based on the truth and it has no capacity to help us what with slavery being called the fix to smoking reefers. Your violence is the problem here, not cannabis.
That is why my user name is SuckMeBush! I just plain don’t get you people respecting us because you have substituted “managing us” in place of understanding and representing us.
TH/twh
Posted by suckmebush in Marijuana News
this is about Carl Olsen’s federal injuctive relief action I have been ranting to various site buds. Carl is the bombdiggity!
Drug Law Blog: DEA Accepts Petition To Consider Removing Marijuana From Schedule I
I think it’s important to get clarification, although I really think the law is clear on this.
If you look at the two cases everyone cites, Gonzales v. Raich (2005), and United States v. Oakland Cannabis Buyers Cooperative (2001), the Supreme Court seems to be saying that Congress put marijuana into Schedule 1 and it can’t be removed because Congress put it there. That argument is nonsense and could not possibly be what the Supreme Court intended to say.
No one would suggest that marijuana cannot be rescheduled. In fact, several marijuana rescheduling petitions have been filed over the past 38 years since the Controlled Substances Act was enacted.
The DEA has just accepted my petition to reschedule marijuana. If Congress had locked marijuana into Schedule I, the DEA would not have just now accepted my petition to reschedule it. It’s obvious that marijuana can be rescheduled.
If you look at 21 U.S.C. 812(c), it says “Initial schedules of controlled substances.”
Then it goes on to require the amendment of the schedules: 21 U.S.C. 811(a)(1) (“transfer between such schedules”); 21 U.S.C. 811(b) (“remove a drug or other substance entirely from the schedules”).
It’s obvious that Congress didn’t intend to reject rescheduling of marijuana simply because Congress initially put marijuana into Schedule I.
So, the question is then: what triggers the rescheduling. In 1991, the U.S. Court of Appeals in Alliance for Cannabis Therapeutics v. DEA, answered that question. The court said there is no federal definition of accepted medical use, and that in the absence of such a defition, the court defers to the DEA’s opinion.
In Gonzales v. Oregon (2006), the Supreme Court explained why there is no federal defintion of accepted medical use, saying that Congress never intended to occupy the field of medicine and the states determine accepted medical use. So, there actually is a federal definition of accepted medical use - whatever the states say it is.
In 1991, there was no accepted medical use of marijuana, because the states did not start accepting medical use of marijuana by state statutes until 1996 (California and Arizona).
So, today, there are 12 states that have accepted the medical use of marijuana. These laws are binding on the federal government and the DEA has no discretion in the matter. The DEA’s opinion isn’t relevant any more.
I guess I should answer your question. Both state (Iowa) and federal law say marijuana has no accepted medical use in treatment in the United States. Although Iowa has the power to say marijuana has no accepted medical use in treatment in Iowa, it cannot speak for the other states. As explained previously, the federal government has no power to say marijuana has no accepted medical use in treatment in the United States. Twelve states say it does have accepted medical use in treatment and that means “in the United States” as explained by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the First Circuit in 1987 in Grinspoon v. DEA.
Iowans for Medical Marijuana is part of a coalition of groups that filed a rescheduling (in 2002) which is still pending with the DEA: Marijuana Research: The Members of the Coalition for Rescheduling Cannabis
My current petition is different. My current petition is actually just a notice to let the DEA know they are in violation of federal law. There’s nothing for them to do but obey federal law and remove marijuana from Schedule I now that it no longer fits the definition of a Schedule I substance. Congress gave the power to determine accepted medical practice to the states (see 21 U.S.C. 903) and not to the DEA. 21 U.S.C. 903 says clearly that Congress did not intent to occupy the field of medicine, and that’s how the U.S. Supreme Court interpreted it in 2006 in Gonzales v. Oregon, 546 U.S. 243 (2006). My current petition is purely a matter of law and fact. The law says the stated determine accepted medical use under the federal Controlled Substances Act, 21 U.S.C. 801 et seq., and the fact is that twelve states have determined that marijuana has accepted medical use. The DEA is in violation of federal law for maintaining marijuana in a schedule that says it has no accepted medical use in the United States. My petition merely gives them notice that they are in violation of federal law. The next step is federal court.
Apparently a notice has been served to the DEA to cease and desist.
On August 11, 2008 the DEA was served Notice to Cease and Desist enforcement of fraudulent federal marijuana regulations within 30 days or further action will be taken.
Feds subverting state marijuana laws
Posted by suckmebush in Marijuana News
Remember how I mentioned that it was illegal for the federal government to interfere with California and Oregon like I said in the previous post about federal invasion of the compassion clubs out there? Seems the big money republicans bitched to the federal buddies in Washington and got something done after all. What they got done was to expose the screaming wound in the Constitutional rape job the dea pukes have been doing to the state’s rights of anyone they don’t agree with.
Let me make a small prediction?
This whole thing has the distinct possibility of weakening the entire federal control of all the fifty states just a bit because of the excesses of the constitution haters in the dea. I predict a small to significant loosening because the states are not owned by the federal government! dea pukes, you are playing with real fire and your corporate buddies may be very hurt by some gigantic changes taken by states to protect themselves from shits like you liars and slave masters.
European friends, we are not all insane police lovers or thugs, either. We are people just like you are and these conceited pension grabbing scums are reealy hurting everyone.
Judge says Feds violated 10th
Amendment by subverting state
marijuana laws
As It Stands by Dave Stancliff/For the Times-StandardArticle Launched: 09/14/2008 01:32:06 AM PDTA landmark decision for all Californian’s quietly made history on August 20th in a Santa Cruz courtroom.For the first time since 1996, when the Compassionate Use Act was passed, the federal authorities have been charged with violating the 10th Amendment for harassing medical marijuana patients and state authorities.The case of Santa Cruz vs. Mukasey, was heard by U.S. District Court Judge Jeremy Fogel, who said the Bush Administration’s request to dismiss a lawsuit by Santa Cruz city and county officials, and the Wo/Men’s Alliance for Medical Marijuana (WAMM), wasn’t going to happen.In a recent telephone interview with Alan Hopper, an ACLU counsel familiar with the case, I asked him what came next?”The plaintiff will get a get a court-ordered discovery document that will allow them to get documents, and even depositions, from the federal authorities to support their claims,” he explained.So now it’s the city, county, and WAMM’s turn to prove their case against the federal government. The court has recognized a concerted effort by the federal government to sabotage state medical marijuana laws, which violates the U.S. Constitution. The significance of this ruling, the first of its kind, cannot be overstated.California voters may finally get what they asked for a dozen years ago. When the court said that the federal government had gone out of its way to arrest and prosecute some of the most legitimate doctors, patients, caregivers, and dispensary owners that had been working with state and local officials, it finally drew a line-in-the sand.An example of the federal authorities violations was their pursuit of WAMM. This non-profit group has been around for many years, and has been fully supported by the city and county of Santa Cruz. They have been referred to, by officials, as the model medical marijuana patient’s collective.The group was functioning so smoothly that the city even allowed them to hold regular meetings to distribute marijuana to its patients on the steps of city hall! The federal agents still went after them, which brought about this court decision.When the ACLU filed this lawsuit to stop them from targeting medical marijuana providers and patients, they opened a door that may finally lead to no federal interference in California’s medical marijuana law.We must not forget that medical marijuana brings in about $100 million each year in tax revenue. Conferring total legitimacy to the law will allow this cash flow to continue, and hopefully, increase over time.When the judge ruled the feds were threatening physicians who recommended marijuana, he set the stage for regaining patient’s rights. The ruling clearly pointed out that the feds were also threatening government officials who issue medical marijuana cards, and interfered with municipal zoning plans.In the summation, the court found that, “There was a calculated pattern of selective arrests and prosecutions by the federal government with the intent to render California’s medical marijuana laws impossible to implement and therefore forced Californian’s and their political subdivisions to re-criminalize medical marijuana.”In a recent column, I mentioned California’s Attorney General Jerry Brown had passed out an 11-page directive that all law agencies were to go by. I expressed concern that the federal authorities would ignore those guidelines, but upon finding out about this recent ruling I now have some cause for hope.It sure sounded like Hopper was looking forward to the next phase, and he seemed confident that positive change lay ahead. Asked which presidential candidate would be more amenable to upholding medical marijuana laws, he cleverly replied that he thought they both would be willing to work for change. He could be right too. This is a year of change.This on-going battle with the federal authorities ignoring California’s laws has been well-documented in the past. Why hasn’t there been more coverage for such an epic ruling? Its potential as breakthrough legislation is something all Californian’s should know about in my opinion.The war against medical marijuana hasn’t been won yet, but this could be the breakthrough everybody’s waited for. At the core of the war waged by the federal government against the voter’s will, is the failed War on Drugs by the Bush Administration. It’s about time someone told them to back off.As It Stands, we can score this as a successful round for state’s rights.
Yeah! back off feds! you are in clear violation of the law! You are owned by us, now act like it or be dragged into court by about twenty to seventy five million of us reefer grower/tokers and get your dirty asses sued clear off!
You are frauds, that is why we are mad at you. Your prohibition is a fraud and your incarcerations are a fraud, too. You had twenty years at Carl and about half that at your humble narrator and all you did to us is Piss Us Off at your lame act. Obey the law, federal agents of the usa! correct the marijuana schedule to adjust for the reality of twelve states with medical use of marijuana and more on the way. Drug warriors! you need viagra! your confidence is waning lol